Help - Search - Members - Calendar
Full Version: Bus Lane Fine - Newcastle
FightBack Forums > Queries > Council Tickets & Clamping and Decriminalised Notices
Keeping It Anonymous
Summary: I was driving home (recently moved here so not familiar with area). Road works was taking place meaning the road I'd normally go was shut. There was poor diversion route signage by the council and I couldn't work out how to get home apart from taking a super long route (I was convinced there would be a route that wouldn't be as much of a detour).

Then I remember a road a bus I went on once went down so I decided to use that as a quicker way to get home. It was then I had the realisation it was a bus only route, but by this point I was already driving down it with a bus behind me so I couldn't do a 3 point turn to go back. I had to bite the bullet and keep going and now received a fine.

I complained about the fine and said to the council the diversion signage was poor which caused me to go into the bus lane. They rejected this and said:

"You asked whether the signs or road markings were correct. The place where you were driving has been visited and the signs and road marking there were correct. It's unfortunate that your satnav directed you into the bus lane, however it's up to the drivers to be aware of bus lane and other signs and obey them. As a new person to the area, it is unfortunate you were unfamiliar with the bus lane and times it is in force. However, it is still up to drivers to be aware of this."

It contains a link to appeal to an independent adjudicator at the Traffic Penalty Tribunal which I'm going to do. Any advice on how to win my case?
stamfordman
We need to see the PCN, your challenge, their rejection and the video.

Put pics on https://imgbb.com or such like as space on forum is limited. https://imgbb.com has BBCode to embed pics on the forum. Set uploads not to autodelete if signed up and using https://imgbb.com Or use Google Docs, Dropbox etc.

Put videos on Youtube, Vimeo or such like.
Keeping It Anonymous
QUOTE (stamfordman @ Sun, 3 Jul 2022 - 19:28) *
We need to see the PCN, your challenge, their rejection and the video.

Put pics on https://imgbb.com or such like as space on forum is limited. https://imgbb.com has BBCode to embed pics on the forum. Set uploads not to autodelete if signed up and using https://imgbb.com Or use Google Docs, Dropbox etc.

Put videos on Youtube, Vimeo or such like.


First letter saying I've got a fine:
https://ibb.co/3B5Kyhb
https://ibb.co/PW2PmgR

The letter after I complained about the fine:
https://ibb.co/HDbnTkj
https://ibb.co/PFHTMh3
https://ibb.co/jkVcYb3
https://ibb.co/3fB7qDr
Rob232
You haven't posted what you sent them.
If you didn't save a copy of it put on here your best recollection of what you wrote, especially with reference to your satnav.
Edit, gsv here
https://maps.app.goo.gl/aRkPn82CC8S8B2Ln8
Neil B
Not a single date shown anywhere?
Neil B
There's already something I've noted wrong with the PCN but we haven't seen all of it.

+ we need all dates reinstated. It's only necessary to redact name and address, nothing else.
cp8759
QUOTE (Neil B @ Sun, 3 Jul 2022 - 21:33) *
There's already something I've noted wrong with the PCN but we haven't seen all of it.

I think there's two things wrong with it, but yes we need to see all of it, plus the video and we need a link to the exact spot on google streetview.

For laters: band 1 or 2, also parap 9 schedule 9 TMA 2004, proof of compliance.
Neil B
QUOTE (cp8759 @ Tue, 5 Jul 2022 - 00:15) *
For laters: band 1 or 2, also parap 9 schedule 9 TMA 2004, proof of compliance.

I'd also been looking at "band 1 or 2", in relation to another case, and couldn't figure out if they actually have a choice?
cp8759
QUOTE (Neil B @ Tue, 5 Jul 2022 - 22:29) *
QUOTE (cp8759 @ Tue, 5 Jul 2022 - 00:15) *
For laters: band 1 or 2, also parap 9 schedule 9 TMA 2004, proof of compliance.

I'd also been looking at "band 1 or 2", in relation to another case, and couldn't figure out if they actually have a choice?

They do, and the rules say they can have different bands in different areas, but not different bands in the same area. As 34j is a higher level contravention, just as DYLs, there can't be a £60 bus lane penalty and a £70 bus lane penalty on the same bit of road.
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.
Invision Power Board © 2001-2024 Invision Power Services, Inc.